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IAMA former Drug Dealer
Hello, my internet name is Ralt, and I was a drug dealer for 4-5 years. I posted in the thread:
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1kt49b/what_career_path_did_you_choose_that_you_strongly/
And advised people that the choice I made was poor. I have done all sorts of ridiculous shit, I have great memories and horrifying regrets. People seem interested and I was asked to to an IAMA, I got nothing else to do, so fire away if you care. I have answered a lot of questions after that post, if you want go over that to get questions to ask. I am getting proof right now to PM to mods, as best as I can.
/edit: Good night folks, I'll still answer anything you care to ask tomorrow. It's been...interesting, I hope you all at least thought the same.
Ralt110 karma
Cheating with my good friends wife, we had a two year long relationship, and I kick myself everyday for being a piece of shit.
PlutoniumKrogan22 karma
If it can make you "feel better" you are not a total piece of shit. Sure cheating is really low and shouldnt be forgiven in my opinion, but at least you know it. Some people cheat and act like they are the victims when they get comfronted.
Ralt64 karma
He actually stalked me about a year into it, and we sat down and discussed it over a bottle of wine. I really thought he was going to try to kill me, but he had been hitting the Heroin hard ever since she left him, he was a construction worker, but he looked weak. Still, the guilt will haunt me forever. I run 5k's at night and I wish he would just pull up and jump out and beat the shit out of me, at least I would get closure, but really, I don't deserve closure and I hope he just has a better life, we were best friends at one point, hanging out every day.
LonelyLemming60 karma
Did you ever knowingly sell to children and young teens without any hesitation?
Ralt123 karma
I sold weed to my 16 year old sister once because I didn't want her to go through just anyone. I refused to sell her alcohol though. Otherwise, not to my knowledge.
LonelyLemming38 karma
Alright, for that situation that makes sense. At least you know she's not getting any crack sprinkled in.
Ralt136 karma
Heh, no one does that. I mean, I hear stories, but I don't believe them. Crack is kind of pricey, most people who have crack would much rather smoke it than give it away secretly to stoners.
I didn't want her to make the connections into the drug world, essentially, I didn't want her to meet people like me.
BroedOutHipster25 karma
We once got pot from a guy who sold blow cause our normal tree guy was out of town, and when we smoked it it tasted weird and we got a really weird high. We had an idea of what might have happened so we called and he confirmed, he kept them together so there was plenty of blow sprinkled into the weed.
Ralt52 karma
I've heard of it, but still, as a ex-dealer, I don't see why you would ever do it. Cocaine is expensive, why would you just throw it at stoners who don't want it. I cede the point that it happens though.
faployst7 karma
This this this. I have had laced weed ONCE in my life, and it was laced with windex which happens from time to time where i live, some people spray weed with windex because it apparently gives your head a very high feeling, Making shit weed seem awesome. When people get caught, word gets out and then all of a sudden no one buys from them. Laced weed is the biggest argument from anti weed groups instilling fear in parents minds. It just isn't true, the 99.9% of dealers want return business and want to build a clientele, and the only way to do that in an over saturated market is to provide the highest quality most consistent product.
I never did any of this shit when I sold weed. My coke was worth much more being sold as coke, I wasn't going to waste that fucking gold mine on stoners.
Anyway speaking of why it's a shit job, there is such little money in weed unless you're regularly flipping large quantities. I consider weed a "gateway drug" for dealers because after a few months you realize you're not making as much money as you could, much higher profit margin on coke and pills. The shitty part is, everyone and their brother sells weed where I am and there isn't really any beef over turf/customers because there is such huge demand for weed. You get into the harder shit though and then violence gets involved, you're 100 times more likely to be robbed, more people will owe you larger amounts of money, and some of them won't pay so you have to then make an example of them so more people don't fuck you over.
Ralt3 karma
Yeah, it's why I stayed the fuck out of selling Heroin and Cocaine, I'm not made for that shit.
ferlgatr45 karma
You mentioned you got arrested for felonies: how long did it take for dealing to become violent? Did you have some form of self defense (knife, gun, posse, etc.)?
Ralt114 karma
It was unrelated. I never got caught for selling. I did an armed robbery to impress my girlfriend (I am not shitting you, I wish I was) and got caught. I owned 2 handguns & a shotgun.
Ralt93 karma
You have no idea what a lesson that was. It was a fascinating time in my life, sitting in jail, withdrawing off Heroin, for a robbery I didn't even need to commit.
Wanna know the best part? When I got out the cops had left our phones in her purse, I went through hers and I swear to the gods I don't believe in, she had texts to people saying she was going to leave me for a girl we wanted to have a threesome with. She was also texting a male friend about how she would "Need a good dicking" every now and then.
corecollapse5 karma
Did that change your concept of women or had you been betrayed a lot already? I've been cheated on by more than one person and no longer seek out meaningful relationships because of it. I feel worthless enough without a woman rubbing it in.
Ralt11 karma
I am still a hopeless romantic and dream of the day where I can live sharing love between another human being and I. I thought I had that before, but with a sober look into the past, it was just fucked up and insane.
xLuky13 karma
Did you don the cliche black ski mask and everything? What was the plan in your head before you walked inside?
Ralt27 karma
No, didn't have one on hand. Bandanna on face, sunglasses, black hoodie black pants. I did know exactly what I wanted to do, get all the customers in one spot and have my accomplice watch for cell phone activity while I got the cash from the register.
xLuky14 karma
Interesting, thanks for the reply! I hadn't even thought about the cell phones. Was there a reason for robbing that particular place? Also if you don't mind me asking, when did you know you were caught and do you realistically think you could have made a clean get away if you had done things differently?
Ralt14 karma
They were open. Breaking into a closed business is actually a much lesser charge, heh. The only hope I had was being on foot, the moment I got into the vehicle it was game over.
mcfly35742 karma
how different is your average hard drug buyer compared to the more casual drug buyer, i.e. did the users who "needed" the drug to function have a very different relationship with you than the casual pot smoker?
Ralt50 karma
Beyond any idea you have. I became a heroin addict as well, so I also have first hand knowledge. The worst ones I sold to people were Mephedrone and MDPV, and I felt like total shit. I knew as soon as everyone I managed to get hooked on it got paid, I was getting paid. I could count on several hundred dollars everyday, it was no question. They are also typically less educated and generally lower socio-economic. Not always true though, I bought heroin fairly often from a man who owned a very successful local business. He's cleaned up though from what I last heard.
Jlocke9840 karma
dude, MDPV, I know the margins must've been amazing but that shit, much like the wu-tang clan, ain't nothin' to fuck with
Ralt29 karma
Word, it's soul-killing poison. I have no excuses for what I've done beyond personal greed, sadly.
Jlocke9818 karma
eh, I'm of the opinion that as long as you told the customer what chemical it was, so that they could do their due diligence on the chemical and whatnot, they are solely responsible for whatever shitstorm it ends up causing.
Ralt30 karma
I both agree and disagree completely. I tried to educate my customers, I would send them lengthy reams of information from bluelight.ru and erowid.org but...there is no way to really translate a drug experience truthfully into words. The urge you get to re-dose the second you take MDPV into your body is horrifying.
I still feel bad for what I've done, I was the one importing the chemicals, I was the one supplying them. Take me out of the equation and a lot of people may have had a lot better lives. I enabled the addiction of hundreds of people, more often than not giving them their first real taste of "real" drugs. There is a fascinating tendency to shift the blame away from the dealer, and it at least falls somewhat upon people like me. I know addicts will find ways to get high regardless, I am one of them, but I didn't have to be so damn complicit. I didn't have to be right there waiting for them to ask and informing them of what I had gotten lately.
abazabba16 karma
Mephedrone was the shit back in '09. We called it shrimp. Fucking everywhere!
Ralt71 karma
Anywhere from 100-300k. I have nothing to show for it, I blew any and all profits into alcohol and more drugs. I realized just a few days ago I didn't even buy myself clothing, I am 24 now and most of my wardrobe bar what I just got for a birthday comes from High School.
ferlgatr27 karma
Is that how you kept the IRS off your back: you got your money in drugs and you spent it in drugs?
Ralt79 karma
I didn't use banks at all. I had no worries about the IRS, all I cared about was getting high. I paid my landlord in weed for two years even, I had no trace.
Ralt76 karma
Daniel, no doubt about it. Guy was shady as fuck and couldn't have been more of a obvious drug addict. I dealt mostly with middle class whites so to have someone so blatantly advertise bugged the hell out of me, but he bought ounces, what do you do?
ferlgatr36 karma
How did you start? Just saw it as easy money or did you like the rush or something?
Ralt49 karma
I was working for Wal*Mart unloading trucks and decided fuck this, I want to make tax free cash, and a lot of it. I loved weed & psychedelics and I went from there, we started a Mushroom grow-op and after a year transferred to weed. We also imported marijuana from California, we got Medical ID's and found a shop that would sell by the LB.
Ralt20 karma
To be honest I liked the actual work of unloading trucks, but hated the company itself. All I wanted to do was be left alone in the back room and work my dick off, they were constantly fucking with us making us do ridiculous shit, shifting schedules, taking away breaks, informing us on how to do our jobs. When you've been busting ass for 5 hours straight and you're pouring & covered in sweat it's hard to give a fuck that some guy in a tie is telling you that you're not working hard enough.
Medoingreddit30 karma
How is your relationship with your family now that you've cleaned up? Also, what felonies did you get popped for?
Ralt31 karma
Yes. I was living in my parents basement for the last three months, my landlord who I paid rent with weed died from his disease and moved back in and shot heroin and sold drugs out of their basement.
TwinkleTwinkleLilBat26 karma
Did you ever refuse to sell to anyone? Why?
What was the worst situation you've ever been in during a deal? (violent customers, snatch and runs, kids involved, etc.)
And also I have another question that's related to a situation I'm going through so would you mind if I messaged you?
Ralt34 karma
I refused to sell alcohol to my little sister once. Message away!
Once a guy got off with two ounces of chronic (A loss of ~$600). I was early in the game and idiotic.
Ralt21 karma
Hah, I was sitting in my car...waiting for him to come back with the money. He had bought $1000 of product from me already, and he said the customer preferred privacy. It was the first and last time I let product leave without cash in hand.
Swiftzor25 karma
I have a couple of friends who are considering or already have small grow ops for personal use only, but the way I understand it, that almost always turns into "I can make money off of this, so why not". Is there any advice you can give to a concerned friend who doesn't want the see them start down that path?
Ralt34 karma
There's not much you can do. Just keep an eye open and try and remind them that it's not just pot, it's months to years in jail/prison.
justkeeptripping13 karma
as someone who went through all this, what do you think/have to say about people in medical or legal states who sell to dispensaries "legally"
as a former drug dealer, do you consider those people drug dealers?
Ralt45 karma
Well, they dispense a psychoactive drug, so...yeah.
I don't think it's a bad thing though, I'm 100% for legalization of all drugs actually, so long as anything remains black market it will be exploited and serve only the interests of criminals. With regulation and legalization a lot of the violence and crime can be removed.
Napaulm22 karma
What (if anything) kept you in contact with the real world/gave you some sense of normalcy during the time you were dealing?
Ralt43 karma
Nothing. I didn't exist in the normal world, and I made it a point of pride and obsession. I avoided my family, all my friends and contacts revolved around using and selling. I cut off all sober friends I had, not even on purpose, I just had no time for them. I showed up to a family function like once a year, high out of my mind or drunk off my ass just trying to bear through it. It was this lack of contact that let me get so deep, in my opinion. I was talking to a friend I met through WoW in my teenage years trying to explain it to him and it finally hit home when he realized just how little I knew of the years that had passed in terms of news. I used the internet to source and buy drugs and that was it.
Ralt43 karma
I was arrested for violent first degree felonies and reconsidered everything about my life.
Rhino02ss20 karma
Congrats on getting out of the trade. The drug world seems hesitant to give up those who fall in.
You've covered a lot of the negatives of drug dealing. Outside of the money, is there anything you miss about the life?
ofthedappersort17 karma
If you had had the chance to legally deal weed/shrooms/etc. do you think you would have stuck with it? Do you think it would have been a totally different situation?
Ralt23 karma
Yes, I am for full legalization of all drugs everywhere as well as education. I would have stuck with it regardless until I got arrested. It would have been different, a lot different.
ofthedappersort12 karma
I'm glad to hear you say that. It sounds like you kind of slipped into harder stuff, do you believe the "gateway drug" theory?
Ralt29 karma
No. My first drug was IV morphine in a hospital after a Testicular torsion. So if anything, my gateway was a hospital.
ofthedappersort12 karma
this is completely off topic but you'd know if you had a testicular torsion right? In other words, it hurts like a bitch?
Ralt26 karma
Yes. OH MY GOD YES. I have cut off the majority of the flesh from one of my toes while drinking, and it didn't have shit on this.
Your testicle literally starts dying as the blood flow is cut off. I was in 11th grade in my first class when suddenly it felt like someone had not just kicked me in the balls, but used a burning hot iron to smash one of them. I drove home screaming, yelling at every bump. I laid down for 2 hours before WebMD'ing it and realized what I had and that amputation was a real possibility at that point. I called 911.
dyl4ng13tz17 karma
Is this really removed? That would be disappointing. How did you aquire new customers? Who were your vendors/suppliers? What were your terms with them? What terms would you extend to your customers and how did you decide who was credit-worthy? Did you have any emplyees? How many? How did you keep your records on clients? I have alot more questions for you if you have the time to answer.
Ralt16 karma
Social networking is how I met everyone. I started out selling to my friends, and met their friends, and it took off. I purchased Research Chemicals from Chinese and Thai labs and bought weed and psychedelics just from other dealers I met. I bought two pounds of marijuana total from the cartels during this time.
It was always me and a friend. I was working with one guy, but he threw me out of our house. I moved in with a guy I sold to and started up with him.
I got all the time in the world until my NA meeting starts.
Ralt16 karma
I started out by growing Mushrooms in my bosses basement. We switched to weed after a year or two. I only met people through people I knew. I didn't always, I got jacked two ounces of chronic once ($600 where I live) because I was new and idiotic.
Growing mushrooms and weed was probably the best parts. I had a blast build aeroponic system and watching mycellium grow.
Ralt30 karma
Anything and everything I could make a profit from. I started with Mushrooms and Marijuana. I moved into the world of RC's (Research Chemicals) with a chemical called 4-aco-dmt and eventually moved into benzodiazepines, stimulants, entactogens (Think Ecstasy-like), psychedelics, dissociatives, opiates, you name it. RC's or bath salts were just too lucrative and I personally was fascinated by them. When you can buy a gram of a drug that costs $20-40 and doses with 10mg that you can sell for $10-20, how do you not?
Ralt10 karma
I kept a list of every substance that I sampled, one moment while I find it. Cannabis
Alcohol
6-APB
Methlyenedioxymethamphetamine
Methylenedioxyaminoindane
Methylenedioxymethcathinone
4-Methylmethcathinone
4-Methyl-Ethyl-Cathinone
4-Flouro-Methyl-Cathinone
Dimethlytryptamine
Dipropyltryptamine
5-Methoxy-DMT
5-Methoxy-MiPT
4-HO-MET
4-HO-DMT/4-PO-DMT (Mushrooms)
4-ACO-DMT
LSA
LSD
2c-E
2c-I
2c-P
2c-D
2c-t-2
DOC
Methylenedioxypyrovalerone
Amphetamine
Methamphetamine
4-Flouroamphetamine
4-Flouromethamphetamine
Cocaine
Crack Cocaine
Methylphenidate
Dextromethorphan
Nitrous Oxide
Methoxetamine
Hydrocodone
Oxycodone
Methadone
Morphine
Heroin
Hydromorphone
Tramadol
O-desmethyltramadol
Nicotine
Phenazepam
Lorazepam
Diazepam
Alprazolam
Clonazepam
Diphenhydramine
JWH-018
JWH-073
JWH-081
JWH-210
JWH-250
SR-18
Zolpidem
Zopiclone
Gabapentin
Pregabalin
Cyclobenzaprine
Ewwiikk14 karma
Wow, reading this was a big eye-opener for me. I almost went down the same path in high school. My freshman and sophmore year I started dealing and backed out after my partner decided to call it quits. I always wondered what it would be like if I kept going. Thank you and congrats on turning things over.
As far as questions go, what was the worst experience you've had during a deal?
Ralt10 karma
I sold to middle class white people, the worst was I got jacked for two ounces of chronic ($600). Fucker.
himynameiswho14 karma
What do you do now that you've cleaned yourself up? How was it mending the broken relationships when you got out?
Ralt31 karma
I work for a software company, I met my boss in rehab.
I dumped everyone I knew for the most part. I haven't talked to anyone from that life except the 3 people I've ran into either through rehab or NA. My family...was loving and supporting, I don't deserve them.
Sidian4 karma
So you didn't go to university? Has the criminal record been a big deal for you? Pretty lucky to find your boss in rehab. Also, how do you deal with the fact that you now have to be more sensible with money and take time to save up for things etc, and can't make an absurd amount of money quickly?
Good luck with things.
Ralt13 karma
I take it a day at a time. It's kind of easy now that I'm sober. All I ever bought was drugs, as many drugs as I could get. I stole a lot of my groceries and hygiene products from Wal*Mart. I am in debt $20k from rehab and court, and I take it as getting off lightly.
Fyooz13 karma
At what point in your life did the idea of drug dealing become a reality for you? Like when did it go from something criminals do, to something you do?
Ralt22 karma
When my friend and my boss all quit Wal*Mart and started growing shrooms in her basement.
Ralt40 karma
Don't break the fucking law. It's simple, but at the same time not. It's just not worth it, it will have to be life and death before I break the law again, I don't even fucking speed.
Neighborhood-Watch12 karma
I read comment in the 'hate my job' post and have to say this to ya man. I feel for you. I feel so much you. Not the kind of feelings that can easily be described, but a lock eyes and soul torn feel. ya know?
Ive stuck to only one "drug". Every aspect of it. And even though the hearts and minds of the country are changing, mines not. My friends are paychecks that I text only to see if they are looking. Every car in front of my house has a UC listening to my phone calls. My paranoias only go away when im looking over my shoulder. Every relationship ive had has described me as sketchy or shady. I refuse to go around anyone in my family because I feel like itd influence them. I don't want them to take the easy road out.
On the flip side, i pay my own bills, taxes, college bill, and shelter and food. But i'm still not happy.
Thanks for making me give my life a 7th look.
Hows your day been?
Ralt17 karma
Slow day at work, Boss is at a workshop and blundering around Reddit has lead to this. Actually, after talking about all this so open and bluntly I can't wait for my Narcotics Anonymous meeting that starts in an 1:15.
Energizee9 karma
How often did people you know get busted? I've known people that are sketched out when buying bud but is there really a reason for cops to care about super low level dealers that only deal in dubs-quarter oz?
Ralt25 karma
If they catch you mid-act they'll bust your ass regardless. When I was arrested for armed robbery though the police told me they had no idea who I was and wanted to know why I was in the company of the people I was with. My girlfriend and her friend have huge rap sheets and gang involvement. The detective even told me after I bailed out they went easy on the charges because I seemed like someone who got mixed up with bad people. Little did they know I was probably the worst criminal out us.
Andrew_Gilbert9 karma
I hear about Drug dealers all the time, ranging from lowly marijuana growers who do it for a little extra cash to huge drug cartels who are badasses that make millions. My question is, where were you on that scale? And also what was the most dangerous thing that ever happened to you while you were selling?
Ralt17 karma
I made something like 100-300k over 5 years. I spent it all on alcohol and drugs. I am now 20k in debt after court proceedings and rehab.
Salient_Man5 karma
have you ever thought about perhaps getting back into selling, without taking them yourself, just to pay off this debt?
Ralt28 karma
Fuck. No.
I'm done breaking the law. I was an anti-establishment libertarian-socialist, and even though I still am, I obey the fucking law. I'm on probation and one fuck up and it's years of prison.
lil_morbid_girl8 karma
Have you ever been near death like Walt was when the brothers were waiting for him while he was showering?
Ralt22 karma
Two occasions, both self-inflicted though.
First time I took ecstasy one night, and DXM the next night. It can cause what is known as serotonin syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome).
It was horrifying, DXM normally lasts about 4 hours, and I was inebriated for a good 48. I was having constant seizures, I thought I was dying, I just holed up and cried for a good part of those hours. I was completely out of control seizing on my friends bed as they were about to call 911 when it suddenly stopped.
Second, when I walked out of the restaurant there were 10-15 cops with their guns drawn on me. My partner hit the floor and I hit the ground running. I had a firearm in my hand, any one of those cops could have simply just shot me in the head and you know what, probably have gotten a promotion and been totally in the right. Someone I know was shot by cops for buying drugs, she relapsed...and never came back. I don't know why I am alive and she isn't, I deserve it so much more than her.
alividlife7 karma
Right on. West coast or East coast? Just curious what kinda dope you got hooked on. I am glad you made it out alive. I have only been sober for a little while now, and it ebbs and flows. You really gotta walk away from anyone that uses.
Do you frequent /r/OpiatesRecovery, /r/REDDITORSINRECOVERY or anything like that? I always find the recovery subbreddits extremely helpful.
Ralt6 karma
I love /r/OpaitesRecovery :D. Like, i really, really, love that place.
West coast, Black Tar Heroin.
nayja7 karma
After you determined this was what you wanted to do, how did you find the wholesalers and customers to push product to? Did you sell directly to users, or did you sell to lower level dealers?
Ralt13 karma
Both. I sold to anyone and everyone. I just met people through people. I started out in my little circle of potheads/psychonauts and just worked on meeting their friends.
Kabibbles9 karma
Yup. We have spoke a couple times a while ago, I was reading the thread about a job you would not recommend, I saw your post and read the whole thing, it was just interesting to see another dealers insight on the idea, after I read it I saw the username and remembered you from ecr.
I am almost off probation. I got busted a few years ago. Keeping my nose clean now. It sucks working 40 hours a week but at least you can answer your door.
Ralt14 karma
No. I grew mushrooms and weed, and I sold Research Chemicals, but I came nowhere near that level. I to my knowledge have not killed anyone.
Ralt14 karma
I am employed by a software development company and I am forming my own small retail business, but thank you for the words of encouragement :)
Ralt4 karma
Hey, I got verified for the Robbery! I can't...really...prove I was a drug dealer though in specific. You don't really leave a trace.
J_de_Silentio7 karma
What was the drug situation like in the slammer? Was there a possibility to keep dealing?
Ralt11 karma
People come in with their assholes stuffed full with Heroin.
Technically yes, but I wanted no part of it.
Ralt20 karma
I went through a 8 month Outpatient, I attend at least 3 12-step meetings a week. I have a group in an hour and a half actually...
I know I am/was fucked up in the head. I was molested as a child and it severely warped who and what I was, how I viewed myself. I also am Bi-Sexual and was living in fierce denial of that, as I felt that if I was Bi it somehow made what happened to me as a child not abuse. I ran to anything to take me away from this world, that made me not me. Opiates were the best for this, but I used fucking anything. From the 2nd time I smoked weed I wasn't sober until I got arrested and kicked Heroin in jail.
Ultimately, in a way, it was worth it, because I can say I don't hate myself today. I don't view myself as a victim anymore. I wish it hadn't cost others so much though, I've wreaked havoc and hell in my friends and families lives. I can deal with the consequences that I personally deal with...but it hurts to think of what I've done to other people.
theblamergamer5 karma
How did you execute your robbery? Was it calm and cool, or violent and frantic?
Ralt17 karma
I was, but my partner was not. Basically, he had been stealing from his dying uncle to support his Heroin & Cocaine habit. It got found out, he needed money quick to un-pawn everything. This man was my girlfriends friend from school, I don't even like the bastard, but we had been arguing and so I agreed thinking maybe I'll get blown out of it.
He does the first one, gets $20 from the waitresses tips, took him an hour of prowling around outside and being a general wuss. This guy is a gangbanger too, a member of one of the local Blood chapters, how, I don't know.
We take the $20 and regroup at Mcdonalds as we were coming down off the Cocaine and hungry. We eat, pick the next target, and we're off.
I go in with him this time as like, fuck if I know, moral support. He has my firearm & he's in charge. We go in, corral the customers into one place and the employees went with them. I pick out an employee and tell him to open the cash register. The employee is halfway to the register when my accomplice flees, just fucking runs out of the building to my girlfriend who was our getaway driver. Not wanting to get left behind, I follow suit.
So just to recap at this point, two violent felony crimes had been committed for the grand sum of fucking Mcdonalds.
We pick another target, thinking "The cops probably weren't called, we didn't get anything!" and I take the gun, and I tell him I'm doing everything. We mask up, head in. No customers, only two employees, awesome. I get a girl to open the cash register while displaying the gun (It was empty, just fyi) and grab all the cash. She was crying profusely the entire time and I attempt to comfort Her telling Her she will be safe, we will be gone in a moment. I bag the cash, we walk outside. It was probably like...$500ish.
We step outside and there's a fleet of Police, I think 10-15, hard to recall, lots of flashlights in my face. My accomplice drops, I book it. I outrun the Police momentarily and scream at my Girlfriend to wait and let me in the car. I get in, we speed up to 30mphish and I look in the rear view just to see a Police truck smash into our rear left side, sending us spinning and the engine dies. I throw the gun and cash out the window and go through the proceedings. I was so stupid I had another $600 in cash I made selling drugs that day, and the cops naturally took that too. I tried to get it back as they would know how much was stolen, but no Police Officer has a record of my wallet having any money. I don't blame them, I deserved to be robbed of my ill-gotten gains at that point.
That is the story, brief but to the point.
bigjeffrey5 karma
What is your plan now that you have a felony record? I'm sure finding work is going to be hard, right?
Ralt7 karma
Met my boss in rehab, I work for a software company and am starting up my own small retail business with him as well.
Ralt8 karma
Nope, but was very familiar with it. I had no need, Silk Road is generally overpriced.
Backseatdriving4 karma
What would be done to someone who wouldn't "pay up". Like ranging from petty cash up to someone who owed ALOT. I watch a lot of CSI type shows and I'm curious how often that sort of thing actually happens.
Ralt9 karma
I would very often have people over, or leave someones house after smoking a lot of weed with them and just forget to collect. One guy in particular I did that to basically every time, he would just bring it next time. I never had to "collect", but I sold to middle class whites (Seriously, I had one black client) and they always had cash up front.
smazzle3 karma
What is the most amount of money you have ever held in your hands at any one time?
Ralt5 karma
Not a lot, it was something around $10,000. Money was always reinvested and spent on drugs and alcohol for myself.
dickfacebottlenose3 karma
Were you part of any type of organization? My (very limited) understanding of selling is that you've got to be connected to something larger if you are going to get away with it. It seems like local gangs would want to keep the monopoly on drug sales in the area and would stamp out any sellers that weren't paying them royalties, because capitalism and lawlessness.
Ralt6 karma
It's totally laissez faire here. On the coasts you deal with that bullshit, I never ever ran into a problem once with "territory" or "taxing". A lot of drug dealers move to the Midwest because it is a paradise for the independent drug dealer.
Venom3493 karma
I think it's awesome that you're actually doing an AMA on this, and I remember seeing your comment in the other thread too. A little off topic, but have you ever watched Breaking Bad?
Ralt7 karma
Ever since it's inception :). It came out right as I was starting up. Amazing show, very realistic in my opinion for the most part.
capnfauxhawk3 karma
What part of the country did you deal in? Have you ever done deals with Bloods, Crops or any infamous gang?
Ralt8 karma
I purchased a total of 2 LBS of Marijuana from the cartels as well as bought a lot of Heroin and Cocaine for personal use. I wasn't really aware of the gang culture here until I went to Jail. In Jail I got a crash course in the local Bloods, Crips, Sureños & Norteños as well as the local Nazi groups. Midwest.
CheapTibet3 karma
As a guy who had a brother who OD'd on synthetic heroin, fuck your past. But thank you for cleaning your life up.
Ralt6 karma
As someone who has lost two childhood friends to drugs and enabled the addictions of hundreds of others, I agree with both points.
EffinCory3 karma
This post could potentially change my outlook on what I currently do for a "job" and I agree with OP completely, once you see those dollar signs, you make choices outside of who you are, greed is one hell of a bitch
Ralt3 karma
I hope you at least give a long sober look at what you risk on a daily basis. Cost benefit analysis man, it just doesn't work out in the end.
Ralt4 karma
Anything I could make money with. I specialized in Marijuana, Psychedelics, and bath salts.
tyeung533 karma
How long were you in the drug game. Did you make enemies? Did you ever have to pay a "tax" to gangs or the cartel. Did you know anyone people like that?
Ralt5 karma
I supported myself from 18-22. No tax, it's very laiessez faire here. No enemies, I was my worst enemy.
Ralt5 karma
I bought two pounds of shit weed from the cartels once. Never again, garbage product.
I however, became a Heroin & Cocaine addict. Once this was established, I met up with a Pisa (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pisa) everyday to pick up as much Heroin & Cocaine as I could and drive around all day shooting up with my girlfriend selling drugs.
I have been to Mexico once on a cruise when I was like 15, the only time I was transporting across borders was going into California for chronic from corrupt medicinal shops.
gmann790003 karma
Because of the constant " Don't do drugs kids!" drilled into our brains during childhood I have to ask, How bad were the side effects and why did you start dealing?
Ralt6 karma
I started dealing because I loved Marijuana and wanted to grow and distribute it. I kept dealing because I loved independence (Or what I thought was) and cash.
Side effects? I almost killed myself a good handful of times, overdosing on Heroin, mixing drugs that can cause Serotonin Syndrome, (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome). Overall, my health appears to be fine however. I feel just as mentally acute as before, and more open minded than before for sure.
Lord_cloud2 karma
With shows like weeds and breaking bad out there how do you feel about the semi positive light that dealing has been dealt?
Ralt6 karma
If you think Breaking Bad puts drug dealing in a positive light, we have been watching different shows. It portrays a very high-adrenaline lifestyle, because that is what it is, but look at the main characters, if you think they are shown in a positive light...I don't know what to say. I understand cheering for Walt as he goes along simply for the badass factor...but look at what he's become.
JEWJitsu022 karma
Almost all my friends smoke pot. Should i ditch them all or just smoke one on the occasion that i go over to their house?
Ralt15 karma
I think marijuana is a rather benign substance and actually helped me with some psychiatric issues. It's illegal though so weigh that in with your decision making.
kierantab2 karma
Was there ever a time you thought your life was in danger, while dealing drugs?
Ralt3 karma
No, only when taking them and committing the robbery. I sold to white middle class folks.
sufferchildren2 karma
Do you agree that the system, family and society are all frauds and that crime is a way to confront those failures?
"Society is a fraud so complete and venal that it demands to be destroyed beyond the power of memory to recall its existence."
Do you think that crime (in special drug traffic) is a consequence of social inequality (cause-consequence)?
Ralt8 karma
I think your question is fallible in it's very essence. Who is to say that society & family have failed? I mean at the most base level, we're biological machines that life to reproduce, and I think we're doing damn good at that. I think crime is a human construct that was devised because someone dreamed up a concept of "fairness" and thus fair and unfair, and those that unfairly exploit others are "criminals". Still though, that's almost what life is about at a very base level.
Drugs are a consequence of us being complex biological entities. When you put drugs in, systems responds, chemicals are inhibited and released, it makes you feel things, make you feel different. As long as humans are alive, drugs will exist side by side. Hell, I remember reading some article that claimed that humans became an agrarian society simply to produce beer.
derposaurus-rex2 karma
If this is still open, what were the economics of it like? Was it just like
get money
spend money on more drugs
Repeat
Or was it a bit more complicated?
Did you run more of a lowscale small operation or whatever, or were you more like highclass?
What drugs did you sell?
Ralt3 karma
Well, that's sure the basis of it. Depending on supply though we did various things to get more drugs. We got Californian Medical cards through crooked doctors and would run LBS across state lines at one point. We had a grow up in a basement at one point, so a lot of funds were re-invested to expand the operation. Sometimes though, I just called up someone I knew and had them drop a pound or two off.
Bath Salts were even easier, I would just contact the labs/re-sellers, western union some cash, and they would be in the mail within 2 weeks, just waiting for me.
I made roughly 200k over the 5 odd years, so somewhere from 40-60k yearly. I however, did not really make a thing, as all money was reinvested or spent getting high myself.
Ralt5 karma
It's a very accurate representation of a high-level supplier in my opinion. Dramatized, but, so well done.
DrAwesomeTiffic1 karma
I have a few questions: What age did you get into dealing? What all did you sell? How did you avoid getting caught?
Ralt2 karma
- Started with Mushrooms, moved into Marijuana, then Research Chemicals. I didn't do much at all to avoid getting caught except be white, seriously. I was drunk and high the entire time, driving around with distribution levels of drugs on me most of the time.
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1ktv0i/iama_former_drug_dealer/cbspk62
Describes what made me change it all.
makerofrobots1 karma
what is your opinion on the war on drugs? Does it really help, or just perpetuate the problem?
Ralt5 karma
It created a whole new "problem". People will inevitably use substance to alter their moods. It was insanity to criminalize human behavior that doesn't hurt other people. Now that it's illegal, it hurts other people, causes violent crime, street-level drugs lead to overdoses and losing limbs due to IV drug use.
We can either rationally start dealing with drugs are a psychological, medical, and societal issue, or just keep our for-profit jail & prison system going.
enferex1 karma
Presumably you got to visit manufactures and growers. How clean were their operations?
Ralt3 karma
I only ever saw our own operation and one Marijuana clone farm in California. It was...well...like an indoor greenhouse. Lots of plants, lights, and water. The weed I grew at least, I treated with the utmost care, growing Marijuana was one of the few things that actually made me feel at peace and content while I was doing it, but really, horticulture in general is amazing.
BadgerBash1 karma
Did you try to convince people into stepping up into harder drugs? Or did you just let them buy what they want
Ralt1 karma
I informed them of my wares and would go on at great lengths about the positives and negatives and try and educate them, especially when it came to Research Chemicals or Bath Salts. I did convince and sell and hook many people on Mephedrone and MDPV.
puredemo128 karma
Verified OP was charged with felony robbery.
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