IamA former male stripper...all that glitters isn't gold AMA!

Have you ever jumped out of a huge cake?

never....how dare you make a mockery of this

;)

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lol...never jumped out of a cake

Have you ever jumped into one?

I did....then I ended up in this laboratory and promises of cake

Send photo

mod has a pic..he can post it if he wants

It's a reference to the Madonna AMA we had the other day, actually! She kept saying "send photo" to anyone who asked to hang out haha.

understood...I wasn't hip to that meme

I can vouch for you. I knew some popular male revues in vegas and they were always on the coke, had alot of money issues..sleeping with women who one even offered them an old nice mustang. Lucky the hotel they were performing at paid their room and board or they would probably be poor and living in it. I saw their lives and didn't look very healthy.

there is nothing more I can say because you already said it for me

How often did you find yourself getting a hard on while performing? What would you do in that situation?

as for the "what would you do in that situation"...there are times where I didn't wear a "tye off" and would naturally get hard

fact is- this is a "sex job" so if anything I would use my boner to my advantage...like, hang a towel that I brought with me with it or just have stick it in some ladies face...not very creative but what else am i gonna do with it--paint?

this is a tricky one because I would employ what is commonly known as a "tye off"

I'm in the "adult industry" subreddit so I assume I can go into more "graphic" description here

with that prefaced a tye off (if you havent' googled it already) is when you beat off before a show to a point where you have nice "girth" and then you LIGHTLY tye a rubber band around the base of your dick....this greatly enhances the size of your dick and kinda give your dick that "sausage in it's casing" look

so you have nice size however it kinda sorta makes it difficult to get a legit, straight boner...

also (and not to blame recreational drugs but truth be told..)most of the time I was working I was usually under the influence of somesort of recreation drug....couple that with the fact that you may have some self esteem issues and couple that with the fact that you want to get done as fast as you can because you are disgusted with what you do sometimes...well- that makes a synergy for limp city

I didn't proof read that so if i'm unclear about something please let me know

with that prefaced a tye off (if you havent' googled it already) is when you beat off before a show to a point where you have nice "girth" and then you LIGHTLY tye a rubber band around the base of your dick....this greatly enhances the size of your dick and kinda give your dick that "sausage in it's casing" look

I've heard that professional sprinters do the exact same thing, because they're being watched by (in some cases) a billion people while wearing skintight clothing. I can't imagine that would be good for you long term if you do it a lot

it's suggested that you keep it on for 30 minutes max ...it absolutely do alot of damage

I'll be honest....towards the end of my last "run" i was like "fuck it- i'm no wearing a tye off....I just want to do my gig, go home, do drug of choice at the time (if I was doing drugs) and sleep"....i just didn't care...just wanted to get paid

So a cock ring?

less rigid (as well as less creppy) than a cock ring

it's like a "cock tourniquet"

I would venture to say a "cock tourniquet" is more creepy.

it sounds like something that is too working class to be considered in a Mapplethorpe picture but just right for some shitheads art show in trendy part of Berlin/Austin

Have you ever ended up hooking up with one or more of your customers?

numerous times and I can say that all those instances the women (No men) were literally all drunk

in my case no woman with any self worth or sobriety would hook up with a stripper....again- in my case.......i'm no nebbish (fuck- i've been in a calender) but any woman of self worth would bother

i'm a swarthy, sleazy POS :)

I'm like that character that married Rodney Dangerfield's daughter in "Easy Money" ("Can I call you "Dad" ") but with abs

Okay I'm a woman, who just so happens to have a soft spot for and adore swarthy, sleazy pos type men. I know you've gotten around and know that you know what you are doing. Plus, as a stripper, you would have a body that drives me wild. But this certainly doesn't mean I have no "self worth".

Or, maybe I need to re-evaluate my sex life....

quite, mom

EDIT: quiet, mom

An Easy Money reference? Awesome.

I love when Joe Pesci runs out on the track, chasing the jockey.

i love that movie....

EDIT: i don't know how men my age have never seen it or "King of Comedy"

Im 35. My buddies and I were gambling degenerates in college so Easy Money was a favorite.

since when did artie lange post on reddit and why is he lying about his age?

What do you find is the main difference between male and female strippers ? ( example... money, treatment, respect )

I understand your question which is why I'll answer it with this first: I think alot of people may assume that we all share a lockerroom at stipper central where we share war stories- not the case at all

I point this out only because any answer I give is solely from how I assume it is different from women and not from word of mouth from a female performer

However I do know that women make more money because anytime you work in any sex industry 95 percent of your clientele is always men and men (whether gay or straight) are easy marks

now for a straight woman it is easy for them to make good money stripping for men

HOWEVER for a straight man they can make a good money working female crowds however the real good money is to go against there natural sexual orientation and do gay stuff.....so a main difference is that there is a lot less comprimise when it comes to your core audience and the money you will make

there is alot of other stuff (women have vagina's, men have penis, yaddad yadda) but i think that is the main one that comes to my head at 851 am)

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brother- I went to public school so that's as far as i can go in terms of what I know

... and now I'm imagining you as Hulk Hogan.

"brother" is a part of my real life lexicon

I don't know if i used "lexicon" in the right context

You did!

pats self on back like Barry horrowitz

OH SHIT. Horowitz reference!!

should I mention that coincidentally Rick Rude was one of my favorite wrestlers growing up

You did!

barry horrowitz tap on the back

You made the lexicon your "Skip". Good job.

there is gonna be a joke about dying when your life finally started turning around but i'm not going there

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I'll only speak in my experience in terms of pay

revue show- I've never made less than 100 dollars between tips and base pay..however I've made up to 350 for a night....and i'm no lorenzo lamas

average day: during the week you live your life...come friday and saturday you are on call like a fucking doctor if you work for a agency....and sometimes you are doing multiple calls on one night so you are zipping across cities to make gigs...you're driving, checking your text,, looking at map quest all at like 80 miles a hour and making sure that my tear away pants are completely re buttoned up from your last gig...THAT ALONE WILL MAKE WHAT SEEMS TO BE "FUN" IN TO A "PAIN IN THE ASS"

Physical requirements: there is assumption of what a performer should look like (nice tan, nice physique, perfect smile etc) HOWEVER you'll be shocked at what owner of a agency/revue will hire...that's why- when in doubt just submit a pic because what you don't see in yourself someone might see something

and I'll say this about considering doing this--if you do do it just do it for a short time and make your money and then quit.....I honestly abhored my decision to have done this as long as I have....I'm sure i'll be explaining this more and more as this goes on

What made you decide to quit? Was there a moment of realisation or did it build up over time?

I had a "i'm getting too old for this shit" moment in the summer of 2010 when I got kicked out of woman's house because I wasn't "hispanic looking enough"....apparently she wanted someone who looked "Dominican".....I can't make this stuff up...

i had to change outside in the fucking street when I got kicked out...fortunately the street had no street lights

I'm a straight male but have always wanted to do an amateur night. Any advice for something like this?

don't do it lol

Ever show up to a gig and see someone you knew?

kinda sorta in 09.....someone took a pic of a show of mine and a person who worked at my legit job as a trainer at a gym saw said pics and kinda sorta spread the word...didn't matter because my boss was a cool guy......other than that I had nothing like that happen

Did you ever have sex with any of your female clients?

of course---a lot of drunk blow jobs (YES--just like on the porn sites) not as much penetration after a show because I was always in a hurry to get out and go home or I was under the influence to point that i couldn't get hard enough to stick into a orifice

So say hypothetically a guys girlfriend goes out to a male strip club, whats the hypothetical probability that she gives a stripper a drunk bj? Hypothetically

there are alot factors there - how drunk she is - what kinda friends she has with her because her friends are ALWAYS the ultimate cockblock to getting a drunk BJ - How pissed of she is with her BF because fact is if a woman is in a happy, fullfilling relationship with a man she wouldn't even entertain the idea of blowing a stripper (drunk or not)

What's the story about the hookup ?

lol at "the" as in "just the one"

there were SEVERAL drunk blowjobs that were a "slurp or two"...not to brag but truth be told there was those a plenty

there was also more than a few "pump and dumps" in bathrooms or best friends bedrooms.....again- not to play "internetz foremz stud" but these were all very Groundhogs day like...nothing differientated one from the other

This is an interesting AMA so far so thanks for doing it.
Some of your answers make me a little sad, so here's a hug for you. hug

hopefully you won't catch anything from e-hugging me

I have no question I just wanted to say this AmA has been really cool, and a really enlightening, fun, and funny read. Your responses have been absolutely direct and have a great undercurrent of charm. If we ever cross paths I owe you a beer man.

just don't touch my penis :)

Did you ever have to do dirty things in a creepy backroom with a pervey old man?

no....I didn't do as much "gay club" work as people would assume...so as a stripper/go-go boy? no...I tried to keep the flirting light whenever I had to do gay gigs or latch on to the many straight women who would come to the club

....HOWEVER...that doesn't mean I didn't have a foray with "creepy old men"....I don't know how frank I can be on reddit but there is a incident that occurred in 2009 that would be a perfect answer for this question

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i had a Model Mayhem profile....in my description I had (dumbly--if that's a word) mention that I did strip

a guy asked me if I was interested in being on a start up website that would give gay men a first person view of lap dance and then finish off by beating off....

the guy gave me a great rate to meet me in the big city near me....

anyway, i showed up to the hotel and of course I was stoned and wasn't very hungry so I didn't eat...I weighed like 160 pounds....I was fucking shredded but like Iggy pop shreded...it was "attractive" but not healthy

I preface this because when you are that point you CAN'T GET HARD!!!

back to the story... i go to the room....camera guy was there...the guy who offered me the job was there...I started performing...I COULDN"T GET HARD....

Long story short after alot of attempts I still couldn't get hard (even with two levitras in me) so the "producer" (who was totally cool about it) sent the camera guy home....I apologized to the producer with the whole " i didn't know how this could happen" thing

"you want me to suck on it- maybe that will work?"

now- I already had that money spent in my head--it was gonna go towards rent and a nice pair of Diesel jeans (#FirstWorlder) so I was like "i'm not gonna get paid for the shoot but maybe he'll pay me for blowing me".....

"yeah sure" i said

...it was all teeth (sorry guys) and i got even limper (damn you heterosexuality)

"i can't do this- sorry"

producer offered me 300 bucks for my troubles....I didn't take it

I'm assuming a "blind call" is one where you have very little info about the client/party (please correct me if I'm wrong). If that's the case, why isn't there better vetting?

"blind call" isn't a "industry term"...it's a term I made up for whenever a agency doesn't have a current pic of you on file or on the website and they send you out on a call without the client really knowing what you look like

this does happen and it puts you as the performer at a huge disadvantage because say the client doesn't think you're "hispanic looking enough" like they described to the agency owner..think of it though....you wan't "vanilla" and you end up getting "chocolate" even though you implicitly ordered Vanilla

What was your strangest experience while working? I don't know what a normal day was like for you but is there any particular time something weird happened?

honestly (for me at least) things were very Groundhogs day like with each gig

however I do remember almost getting my nipple bitten off in Glens Falls NY.....a couple of years later I was like "that was the town my parents took me to see my first WWF show when I was a kid and it was my happiest childhood memory and then would later be the site of me getting maimed so I could make money to put up my nose"

EDIT:....there was also the time I got a blowjob from a woman who looked like Terry Gordy in PA

that was odd for me

I live in PA. Can confirm that there are some hosebeasts that live here

this incident happened in a small resort town called Shaholah falls...i think it was near scranton or one of the those major PA cities that aren't Philly or pittsburgh

And now a Freebirds reference..... I'm a bit disappointed that you haven't gotten around to working in a Rick Rude reference.

sadly- the reference is valid because this bitch really looked like Terry Gordy....FACE AND BODY

Well, shit. My hometown. This may have gotten a little awkward...

the name of the place was "dream street" or something like that

Did you ever have to strip completely naked?

absolutely....however you have to feel it out to where it's appropriate to do so or not...

if you are in a apartement with a female crowd you have to feel it out because YOU ARE A STRANGER and while you are being hired YOU ARE STILL A STRANGER...women (some) will get offended by nudity which is weird because you are next to nothing around the end anyway

if you are working at a bar YOU CAN NOT get naked because of liquor license laws

in front of men-- you can get naked but as a straight man I would have nothing to show because I can't get hard for men....not homophobic...just straight

there are alot of things I left out above that i'm sure I'll answer in more detail later

Female stripper here. I've stripped in both America and Australia, and I wanted to point out a few things.

OP, I'm sorry you didn't enjoy this work and felt that being high or under the influence made it easier. Most of the people I have met in this industry genuinely enjoy it. There are times when it is tough, and times when you need a holiday, but a healthy career stripping is a viable option for many people.

While I understand that having sexual encounters with your clients is more prevalent in the male stripping industry, I have never worked in a club or been to an event where any of the strippers I worked with had sex with a client (unless she genuinely wanted a relationship). It does happen, but no where near as often as you guys would like to think ;)

Lastly, you keep talking about drugs. Drugs are in every industry, including stripping. I see a LOT of alcohol, and I saw a little bit of coke in America, but if you start needing drugs to work you're not going to last long. Hence most of us don't really do them anymore than non-strippers do. Our favourite drug is usually caffeine.

Thanks for the AMA, OP - even though it does portray the industry in what I believe to be an unfairly negative light, these are still your experiences and completely valid.

Edit: I accidentally a letter.

honestly- I can't disagree with anything you said...

and yes a "healthy career stripping" is possible...however the operative word is "healthy"....in order to have a "health career" in anything the person themselves should be "healthy"

however lets not make any bones about it--this "industry" (no matter how much fun it is) can be a gateway to alot of bad if the person doesn't make the right choices...we can agree on that- right?

and no- the same can not be said about other industry's...you think that selling car insurance is a gatway to selling crack

btw- please do not take my response in a combative tone

so what's your favorite food?

Asian fusion.....that is- if you really care......also- I love cereal....I'll cut a nigga for a bowl of Raisin bran crunch

fuck, this dude is hilarious.

how dare you say i'm smart

FUCKING TAKE IT BACK!!!

What's the wierdest group/person you've preformed for?

this comes out of "Penthouse letters" but a group of teachers (female) at a bacherlorette party....

also- men....duh lol

did I date myself with the "penthouse letters" reference?

Did your family find out? What was their reaction? I'm curious if it is similar to what I imagine the family reaction of a female stripper would be- shock, and shame for no longer being "pure."

never...mostly because a) I had a legit day job during most of the time I was stripping that would act as a means to "launder" my extra income b) my parents are extremely laizzez faire (big word, huh) when it came to some of my affairs c) a good amount of time I was working this job I lived 120 miles a way from my parent d) when I did move closer to my parents and they asked about my part time job I would tell them I was a "DJ".

Were there any gigs that were truly enjoyable? Ones that you still think about today and make you want to return to the industry?

no.....not the one

actually- there was one and the only thing I remember about it was the fact that i LITERALLY brought home the money I made in a Walmart bag

I felt like Scrooge McDuck with a fake tan and a Adam Lambert haircut that night

other than that I, in retrospect, the fact that I ever stripped as long as I did....I realized that all those weekends I lost I could have been on LEGIT dates with girls that I could have cultivated deep relationships with

How accurate is Magic Mike to the real male stripping world?

I'm a straight man therefore I had no reason to see that movie...Plus even if i did I see it I would have been like "What the fuck!!When is this guy gonna stop swinging his cock and pull a rabbit out of the hat?!"

....see, that was a magic joke

I feel like you have a pretty bad outlook on this career, how do you feel about those strippers (men or women) who actually do it and enjoy it? I feel like there are very opposite outlooks on it. Did you ever enjoy it at one point or was it all negative for you?

I can't speak for other people...much like some people like Kimchi some people hate it

for me- the long term effects of stripping outweighed the short term pay day....

the only reason I enjoyed it was because of the money (that I used to buy things I didn't need) and the instant gratification and feeling of worth I got that was missing from my real sex life as well as whatever voids I had from being a product of divorce and being in the shadow of my dad who was apparently this big handsome stud (/cliche)

Brings up another question: Did you hold a LT relationship at all during this time? How did the position affect your love life?

If you don't answer... I hope you grow from the effects and live a happy life :) Thanks for answering!

i had NO LONG TERM RELATIONSHIPS during these times....I was too tired and too busy to go out and meet normal women...plus, I was so emotionally immature that I didn't know what I wanted until recently honestly

as weird as this sounds but I'm glad that I didn't become so jaded that I couldn't find the ability to actually love somebody and know what I REALLY wanted

now the hard part (as for alot of people) is actually finding that person and actually having to compromise sometimes...but i think that is not a plight that is unique to me so I'm not gonna really expand on that here as we all have that

I have heard many tales of female strippers being abused by creepy clients, have you ever had a case where a customer was abusive/rude?

nipple biting incident in Glens Falls NY and having my cock pulled like fucking turkish taffee in Brooklyn by some drunk pig.....

Oh dear, that's terrible :( Did either of them get thrown out?

I think people forget that strippers are actually human beings and not toys...

it was a friend of the clients and it party was at here house...she wasn't gonna kick her friend out of the house

I had to do that thing where a parent has to grab a child's had away from a hot stove lol

"NO...STOP DOING THAT (pulling at my penis)"

That might sound dickish but is just curiosity... what did you want to do when you were younger, any dream job, career that you had in mind? What are you gonna do now, get an education or just try to get by with the job at the gym?

1) be intercontinental champ 2) be in action movies 3) play centerfield for any team in the Majors

Right now- i'm living off the money I made off of construction over the summer which will last me for a bit....then I still have a open door at a gym to go work as a trainer again...it won't take me long to build up clientele

How did it effect your personal life? ie SO or family members?

if you stay too long then it will reek havoc on your personal life

If you already have low self esteem before going into this job (and trust me- you probably have some sort of self esteem issue going into this) working as a stripper will further accentuate that lower self esteem in the long run...Fact is you are not developing self respect or esteem...you are exploiting a facade...you are exploiting something that isn't true

it will be hard for you to see regular people in everyday life without thinking "fuck- I wonder what kinda of weird, piggish shit that guy or girl is into" because you will see alot of "normal" people at there absolute "beast"/basal instinct

stripping can also be a "gateway" of sorts

gateway in the sense that some guys will take a couple of drinks before a revue show to loosen up so to say...then you eventually meet the types of sluts who bang strippers...yes- there are "good girls" who bang strippers but most of them are your typical cum dumpster with daddy issues or whatever....those type of girls will either offer you pot or coke (most likely coke)...then you start thinking that you are a "cliche" so you might as well indulge in it....

now, if you have a existing problem a good majority of the money you make will go to drugs....and if you have a day job as well then ALL of your stripping money will go to drugs because you figure you will live on your 9-5 job money and so you can use your extra money from stripping on drugs....the problem is that your drug use WILL cloud your decision making and will tell you that you don't have to take shit from your 9-5 boss and just make a living stripping...Now, this can be somewhat plausible IF you do not do drugs (at least, recreational/addictive ones) but if you do this with a problem then your fucked because then you don't have enough money to make ends meet with your personal expenses and drugs...so, then you buy into the "cliche" again and say "well, i might as well try and get into porn or escorting" and that is a whole another chapter

there is alot of things that i skipped over cuz it's early but i'm sure i'll remember

Are you in a relationship now? Do girls seem to mind that you were a stripper?

I try to never bring it up.....

I will probably have to bring it up eventually but honestly I haven't found that "special gal" I care for enough to give full disclosure to yet...

I figure this revelation will be shared with someone I care about enough that I want to give full disclosure about

also, while I did work as a stripper and it is "fascinating" it was only a somewhat small part of my life...so small that I can honestly not have to ever mention

Ever do something/ someone that made you nauseous/vomit?

yes----that "all teeth BJ" incident from the producer of that website...I told the story earlier in this IAMA

honestly- I suprised I didn't get PTSD from my years in a thong

You know those fake bachelorette parties on porn sites where a stripper will walk around and girls will suck him off at random - does something like that happen for real? Or like maybe the girl getting married starts blowing or fucking the stripper, does stuff like that happen often by "normal" girls?

those sites are as real as big tits on a skinny girl

I've also been a male stripper! Well, more of a gogo-boy, since it was at gay clubs, and you're not really "stripping" because your clothes are already off, but ehhhh close enough. It was actually a lot of fun, I really enjoyed it. Yeah, there's some creepy people, but for the most part it was just fun to dance, and also I really like the attention, haha. I guess I'm a little bit of an exhibitionist, so it's a thrill for me. I think it helps that I'm gay, and danced at gay clubs... I still do it from time to time when my friends in the nightlife industry ask me to. Met some really nice people doing it, and had some great experiences because of it!

"I think it helps that i'm gay"

brother- that helps ALOT lol

Did you have a serious relationship while you were a stripper? And also, from your other answers, it seems as though you weren't very happy stripping, so where did you get joy from?

no serious relationship while working as a stripper....I had fooled myself into thinking what I was getting doing gigs was gonna suffice in place of a real relationship....I don't blame that so much on "the industry"...more on my emotional imaturity and not being able to distinguish my job (because it is a job, ladies and gentlemen) and a real relationship

while I was stripping I thought I was happy....but I realized that I didn't cultivate anything that was real

How accurate is The Full Monty?

I couldn't comment because I've never been to England

geography plays alot into how sexually overt women are (see that episode of Flight of the Concords where the one with glasses bangs a chick from Australia)

How common was it to see women who were deeply, deeply uncomfortable with a naked man gyrating all around them? You said you went on outcalls, so I am assuming parties and not just strip clubs.

this is a big shock.....so women are VERY uncomfortable with having a stripper in there house...not only are they freaked out by a semi naked stranger with no tanlines and a flock of segulls hairstyle (it was a weird phase, people) but if they have carpetting they start freaking out if you start doing things with whip cream and/or baby oil

flock of seagulls hairstyle

Was it messy?

Did you run,

run so far away;

run all night and day?

And the girls couldn't get away?

upvote.....predictable but still upvote

You've mentioned drugs a fair amount in your answers. Could you touch on which ones those were and whether you continue to indulge in them today, or was it part of the lifestyle only?

I liked this drug called "everything"

Did you have to do that typical, cliche storyline about being a cop and how you've "gotten a complaint about the noise"?

I did the "cop" A LOT (then again if you are a male performer and do outcalls you are almost ALWAYS the cop)

it was always the "I got to take you in for unpaid parking tickets" spiel then I pat them down and I do that Huell thing where a plant a condom on them and say "oh- what's this?!...looks like someone his some big plans- huh"

it's very gaudy and cheesy however part of the act is the gaudiness and chessiness

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dude- forget colleagues- i couldn't dance for shit

I never learned to dance....If anything I just learned to be really good at taking off my clothes, dry humping and doing things with baby oil and whip cream

Honestly, I'm very athletic and probably could have learned to actually do a couple of moves in a week or so but I didn't care too....I wanted stripping to be a easy job that aside from keeping in great shape I didn't want to put any effort into

The only time I really put any effort was when I first started and was doing revue shows at a all male club in NYC...I learned a 5 minute act but alot of it involved theatrics really....plus, I looked REALLY good at the time

What recreational drugs have you tried?

easier for me to list what I haven't tried: -crack -hash oil (i don't know if that really exists but I hear howard stern mentioning it all the time) - Special K (is that still around)

Are you on roids to maintain a strippers physique?

I didn't start doing steroids till after I stopped stripping ironically

Fact is I was always going for that Rocky IV meets Bruce Lee look which is just a thinnly veiled way of saying I just wanted to snort rails, not eat for 3 days, tan and do wind sprints every day....I pulled it off pretty well

but now that I stopped doing hardcore "recs" I'm more concerned with lifting and getting massive......

and no, steroids aren't addictive no matter what you say mister "copy and paste article saying that steroids are addictive"